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Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band 513	Posted - 2013.05.19 20:51:00 - [1] - Quote Someone give this person a job at CCP headquarters! I like what I'm seeing in the suggestions for the overview! I've always avoided trying to deal with it because it's too much of a headache even to come up with solutions for it, but your ideas are making my head feel better already! Also, your avatar is amazing! I came here ready to find an excuse to leave, until I saw your avatar and decided I might as well start clicking links. And I have one idea: instead of making a popup box to show ship summary (that would take time and bandwidth), you could just make a more detailed set of small icons to more accurately display all the types of ships. They could all just be boxes, but different colors for different categories. Also, I'd like to see the distinction between the 5 size classes (frigate/destroyer/cruiser/battlecruiser/battleship) worked on. Destroyers and battlecruisers just look like cruisers, and battleships and capital ships look the same. Here's my proposal, maybe someone can draw up a sketch for me: Industrial ships are already a horizontal rectangle. Capital ships could be a vertical rectangle. I'm not sure what to do for capital industrial ships. I'm listing color options here sort of off the top of my head, but with red for direct combat, blue for operations/EWAR, and yellow for industry/exploration: Bright red: tech 1 DPS ships like the kestrel, catalyst, omen, hurricane, typhoon, and attack battlecruisers Dark red: tech 2 assault: assault ships, heavy assault ships, field command ships Magenta: tech 1 tanky combat ships like the incursus, moa, prophecy, maelstrom Maroon: tech 2 tanky: fleet command ships Bright violet: scorpion, bhaalgorn, and tech 1 logistics like the navitas, bantam, augoror, scythe Dark violet: tech 2 logistics, combat recon, and black ops Bright blue: tech 1 EWAR ships like the vigil, crucifier, blackbird, celestis Dark blue: electronic attack ships Bright teal: probe ships: magnate, heron, imicus, probe Dark teal: covert ops (not stealth bombers) Dark green: blockade runners Yellow: tech 1 industrials, noctis Yellow-orange: tech 1 mining barges Dark yellow-orange: exhumers Dark red-orange: stealth bombers and marauders Brown: force recon Strategic cruisers: grey Shuttles and apotheosis: white Titans: bright magenta Supercarriers: bright purple Dreadnoughts: bright red Carriers: bright violet Orca, rorqual, tech1 freighters: yellow Jump freighters: dark yellow Gnosis: brown Zephyr: manila Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band 513	Posted - 2013.05.19 21:51:00 - [2] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/THClXr9.png A quick sketch for colors. Most of the ships are purple, magenta, or red, and in big fleet combat that's mostly what you'd see. I haven't adjusted the shape of the icons for capital ships, but those would stand out more from subcaps once that's done. Note the cheetah. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band 548	Posted - 2013.06.15 06:27:00 - [3] - Quote Something I noticed about the current overviews (Crucible/Retribution) is that there are conflicting filters that are somewhat confusing, and also lots of filters not listed in the options. For instance, I made an overview filter setting and selected all hostile NPCs to show in it, selecting all categories listed of those NPCs. But not a single NPC ship showed at first, I had to right click every kind as I encountered them and select 'add to overview'. This is because the categories in the filter settings only included general types, like asteroid pirates, or mission pirates. But the actual pirates were set up by ship size and faction, ie. Asteroid Sansha Battleship. So I spent two whole expansions adding ships to my overview, and am probably not done yet. I don't want to have to go through that again, so please make all options available in the settings menus, and if there are overlapping settings, setting one on or off should toggle the others it applies to, ie. setting asteroid pirates on should turn Asteroid Sansha Battleship on. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band 567	Posted - 2013.06.23 19:41:00 - [4] - Quote They view it a lot more than you see them respond. If you ask for a blue response to a valid question, there is a good chance you'll get one. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band 571	Posted - 2013.06.27 12:22:00 - [5] - Quote A lot of people seem to fall into the trap of thinking that providing ease of access is a slippery slope to making gameplay easier. It's not. Fact of the matter is that no matter how much ease of access you add, the only way to make scrubs play better in comparison to vets is to remove gameplay options and force everyone into a smaller range of gameplay styles. Anything that increases the options players have will invariably work to the net gameplay advantage of expert and veteran players. And anything that does not affect the options but makes them more accessible will generally draw more players with less skill, making the skill of the veterans and experts more apparent in comparison. World of Warcraft is a testament to this trend, and has demonstrated exactly what will happen when you remove gamplay options as well as what will happen when you make everything more accessible. When at first they made gameplay more accessible, it brought in a wealth of scrubs, but the vets and experts remained solidly on top--the gap between the bottom and the top increased. But when Blizzard took away gameplay options, the gap between the top and the bottom grew steadily smaller. I bring this up because I believe it is relevant to this discussion. More overview options that do not add info, but help to sort the info you already have and make it easier to process, are a good thing. Do not confuse this with things that add info to the overview that's not supposed to be there. No matter how clear it is what everyone's ship type is at a glance, you will never be able to tell what someone's fit is (beyond an educated guess) without using a ship scanner. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Forsak3n. 610	Posted - 2013.10.05 08:00:00 - [6] - Quote anything for an avatar like yours = ) Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 645	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote bump not at the top of my priority list but it registers among my festering papercuts. Also, let us not forget post #48: CCP Arrow wrote: I was told about this thread just now so apologies for not replying earlier. Since we are currently active on help chat on TQ because of the Retribution release today I can't go into specifics just now, but I have read the idea and like it a great deal and would like to thank OP for bringing them to light. These ideas would tie well with an iteration to the Overview. I will bring them to the EVE UI group for discussion. All the best for now and I hope you all like Retribution I did like Retribution, CCP Arrow. Keep up the amazing work! :) Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1133	Posted - 2014.04.21 16:46:00 - [8] - Quote Hi again, Taliah. I'm still here and not going anywhere. P.S. you double-posted. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!!
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1510	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote Taliah Meyhin wrote: Now, let's hope some developers will notice this thread. It seems almost none of them are aware of it. How long do you think it takes for an idea to be considered? The developers are aware of it, but they are aware of a lot of great posts. I think they wait for the CSM to bring it up, and the CSM will bring it up if it is catching attention in the community or if they think it would catch attention. Try getting some CSM members to look at it. I might start with Mike Azariah and Sugar Kyle. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1641	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:29:00 - [10] - Quote I sent a mail to my good friend Mike Azariah (who I actually barely know) and asked him to have a look. I have talked to him before, maybe he'll remember me. Or maybe he'll think my evemail was well-written and convincing enough to have a look. Also, I note that this is posted in the Assembly Hall. You might consider making a satellite post in Features and Ideas Discussion. I wasn't getting much support for my ideas until I discovered that's where all the activity is. F&ID is for casual chat about what could be a good idea, just to run it by others. When you get a lot of support, you would post it in the Assembly Hall and ask people who have claimed support to endorse the post. Then when the CSM note that it is being talked about, they're more likely to take the Assembly Hall post more seriously. At least that's my best guess at current as to how it works. In any case, you might just double or triple your traffic (at the very least) by moving this topic over there. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk

Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1666	Posted - 2014.07.10 00:39:00 - [11] - Quote I can't even figure out how to access the overview while in station, and that has bugged me a lot. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1715	Posted - 2014.07.18 00:55:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Arrow wrote: So as much as I would like to promise you the world, this is the reality we live in and doing things any other way or rushing things would not have the outcome anyone wants. All we ask is that you guys are looking into it! =) Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1871	Posted - 2014.07.18 00:55:46 - [13] - Quote CCP Arrow wrote: So as much as I would like to promise you the world, this is the reality we live in and doing things any other way or rushing things would not have the outcome anyone wants. All we ask is that you guys are looking into it! =) Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1871	Posted - 2014.11.02 02:43:30 - [14] - Quote A bit late but I wanted to wish you the greatest frights and most wonderful sights, Taliah. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1884	Posted - 2014.11.06 21:16:12 - [15] - Quote A bit off-topic, but a great suggestion! I've been annoyed at trying to find those green bits of text hiding in a great sea of everything else! Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 2090	Posted - 2014.12.21 20:12:29 - [16] - Quote Taliah Meyhin wrote: So, according to http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-new-look-for-eves-ui-feedback-needed, the UI Modernization project will enhance other parts of the UI (I hope the Overview will be next). link is broken (needs to have the comma removed from the link section) Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk

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